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Forever race tier list

Choose a class and build to rank every race it can be by simulated damage. Talents, rotation and the fight stay fixed; the simulator chose each race’s gear for that race.

From the WoW: Forever simSim 684f9d6 · 2 Oct 20265,000 iterations
Classes
9
Builds
31
Race results
201
Fights per result
5,000
Snapshot
2 Oct 2026

Racials are partly modelled

Some racials are only partly modelled, and one the simulator leaves out can matter more than the gaps below. Treat this as a snapshot of the current model, not advice on which race to play.

Choose your class

Rogue build

Subtlety Rogue

4 races · 20 / 0 / 31 build · 3.58% between the best and the last race

Level 60 against one level 63 dragonkin with 3,731 armor · 5 minutes · single target · every item's stats and weapon damage 10% higher.

Bands use the gap behind the best race. A race marked tied overlaps another race’s 95% interval, so the simulation cannot put the two in order, and its rank counts only the races that beat it beyond that range. A tie covers simulation randomness only, not mechanics the simulator may model wrong.

  1. S1

    Undead

    Best result

    • Touch of the Grave
    • Underwater Breathing
    702.1 DPS± 0.5Open in the sim
  2. B2

    Windshaper Skyborne

    3.00% behind · 21.0 DPS

    • Elemental Insight
    • Wind Blessed
    681.1 DPS± 0.5Open in the sim
  3. B3tied

    Troll

    3.45% behind · 24.2 DPS

    • Beast Slaying
    • Regeneration
    677.9 DPS± 0.5Open in the sim
  4. B3tied

    Orc

    3.45% behind · 24.3 DPS

    • Axe Specialization
    • Hardiness
    677.9 DPS± 0.5Open in the sim

Where the damage comes from

Undead, standard gear

  • Melee46.2%
  • Hemorrhage20.7%
  • Rupture10.9%
  • Deadly Poison V6.4%
  • Instant Poison VI4.5%
  • Touch of the Grave4.5%
  • Everything else6.8%

Talents and links

20 / 0 / 31 · as Undead

The simulator’s live site can be newer than this snapshot. The planner starts with sample gear; its export uses the snapshot’s commit.

Gear and set bonuses

Undead, the simulator’s replays of the same character

Tier 1 set bonuses
+0.7%
Gear 10% better
+7.0%
Gear 50% better
+32.6%
Hit from gear and talents
24.4%
Out of mana, per fight
Never

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